today, of course, we're focusing on cloud and cloud computing, and i have with me joe brown. he is the co-founder of accelera, and what i find particularly interesting, and some of our viewers might, too, is it says a lot about you sort of implicitly that you founded the firm with some childhood friends. maybe you'd like to expand upon that, even though i know you might be a little too modest to say what it does say about you, which i think is all great, but just share with our viewers. >> yeah, so, the other co-founders of the organization, there are 4 total of us, have been childhood friends. we've known each other for over 30 years, and our business is built around trust and the relationship expands beyond the 4 of us and into the rest of the organization, which really helps to create a great place to work and it really creates a very trusting environment for people to be able to, you know, go out on a limb, to bring out new ideas and things like that, where otherwise they might feel stifled. >> and you don't have those internal conflicts and different agendas that some co